23-03-2009, 09:10
รบกวนเพื่อนสมาชิกหน่อยครับ ผมสงสัยว่า Guitar Martin ทรง OOO กับ ทรง OM มันต่างกันอย่างไร ผมดูแล้วคล้ายกันมากครับ รบกวนเพื่อนสมาชิกหน่อยครับ ผมสงสัยว่า Guitar Martin ทรง OOO กับ ทรง OM มันต่างกันอย่างไร ผมดูแล้วคล้ายกันมากครับ 23-03-2009, 09:49
เคยมีกระทู้เก่าที่อธิบายอย่างละเอียดแต่ผมหาไม่เจอแล้วครับ เอากันง่ายๆคือ 000 scale สั้นแต่ OM scale ยาว 000 คอกว้าง 1 11/16" OM 1 3/4" ถ้าเป็น standard series นะครับ
รายละเอียดจาก UMGF FAQ ครับ
Nut Width (includes wider neck and bridge spacing):
OM. OMs normally have a 1 3/4" nut width. However, some Limited and Special Editions (John Mayer, Paul Simon, Richie Sambora) have 1 11/16".
12-fret 000. All 12-fret 000s have a 1 3/4 nut width or greater.
14-fret 000.
a. All 000's in the 16 Series and below are 1 11/16".
a. The 000-18 and the 000-28 000s in the Standard Series and below are 1 11/16" and the 000-42 is 1 3/4".
b. All 000s in the Vintage Series are 1 3/4" or greater (000-28VS)
c. 000s in the Limited and Special editions vary by model, but most are 1 3/4".
Scale Length:
OM. All OMs are long scale, 25.4" nut to saddle.
12-fret 000. All 12-fret 000s are long scale (since approximately 1924) except for the Norman Blake models, which are short scale. These models are an exception to the rule, perhaps because they combine a 12-fret neck with a 14-fret 000 size body and are thus one-of-a-kind design models.
14-fret 000:
a. All 000s in the 16 Series and below are long scale.
b. All 000s in the Standard and Vintage Series are short scale, 24.9" nut to saddle.
c. 000s in the Limited and Special Editions vary by model. Most, but not all, are short scale.
Bracing:
16 Series and below: All 14-fret 16 Series and below OMs and 000s have identical bracing by comparable model, i.e., 000-15 vs OM-15. 12-fret 000s have their own bracing pattern.
OM. All OMs in the Standard Series and above are 1/4" scalloped, with forward placed bracing.
12-fret 000. All in the Standard Series and above are scalloped with forward bracing. The 1938/9 rear placement on the 14 fret models never occurred with 12-fret 000's, so they maintain their original configuration. 16 Series have Hybrid-X bracing, which is scalloped but an entirely different pattern, and 15 Series and below have A-Frame bracing, which is simpler and not scalloped. Thanks to oldtimey828 for this latest info.
14-fret 000.
a. Standard Series are 5/16" non scalloped for the 000-18 and 000-28 and scalloped for the 000-42. The 000-28H is no longer listed but was scalloped.
b. Vintage Series: 5/16" scalloped. The 000-28EC is not forward shifted. I believe that the 000-18WG was forward shifted, but it is no longer listed.
c. Limited Editions: Varies by model.
d. Special Editions: Varies by model.
e. Exceptions: The 000-18GE and 000-18A bracing pattern is 1/4" and forward placed. The 000-18 Kenny Sultan is 1/4" but not forward placed.
Pickguard:
OM. All OMs have the small teardrop pickguard.
000. All currently produced 12 and 14-fret 000s that have a pickguard have the large size (except the Martin Carthy 000-18, which has the teardrop).
Body Size (inches):
OM and 14-fret 000.
Body Length: 19 3/8
Upper Bout: 11 1/4
Lower Bout: 15
Upper Depth: 3 11/32
Lower Depth: 4 1/8
12-fret 000.
Body Length: 20 7/16
Upper Bout: 10 3/4
Lower Bout: 15
Upper Depth: 3 1/4
Lower Depth: 4 1/16
Headstock:
12-fret 000: Most are slotted headstock, but a few (Jimmy Buffett) are solid headstock
14-fret 000: All are solid headstock
OM: All are solid headstock
As far as tone etc. goes, this subject is of course very subjective. This is a bit of an overgeneralizaiton, but many folks think that the OM has more volume and projection due to the longer scale length, and the 000 has a "Blusier" sound and is easier to play.
Mac Carter
รายละเอียดจาก UMGF FAQ ครับ
Nut Width (includes wider neck and bridge spacing):
OM. OMs normally have a 1 3/4" nut width. However, some Limited and Special Editions (John Mayer, Paul Simon, Richie Sambora) have 1 11/16".
12-fret 000. All 12-fret 000s have a 1 3/4 nut width or greater.
14-fret 000.
a. All 000's in the 16 Series and below are 1 11/16".
a. The 000-18 and the 000-28 000s in the Standard Series and below are 1 11/16" and the 000-42 is 1 3/4".
b. All 000s in the Vintage Series are 1 3/4" or greater (000-28VS)
c. 000s in the Limited and Special editions vary by model, but most are 1 3/4".
Scale Length:
OM. All OMs are long scale, 25.4" nut to saddle.
12-fret 000. All 12-fret 000s are long scale (since approximately 1924) except for the Norman Blake models, which are short scale. These models are an exception to the rule, perhaps because they combine a 12-fret neck with a 14-fret 000 size body and are thus one-of-a-kind design models.
14-fret 000:
a. All 000s in the 16 Series and below are long scale.
b. All 000s in the Standard and Vintage Series are short scale, 24.9" nut to saddle.
c. 000s in the Limited and Special Editions vary by model. Most, but not all, are short scale.
Bracing:
16 Series and below: All 14-fret 16 Series and below OMs and 000s have identical bracing by comparable model, i.e., 000-15 vs OM-15. 12-fret 000s have their own bracing pattern.
OM. All OMs in the Standard Series and above are 1/4" scalloped, with forward placed bracing.
12-fret 000. All in the Standard Series and above are scalloped with forward bracing. The 1938/9 rear placement on the 14 fret models never occurred with 12-fret 000's, so they maintain their original configuration. 16 Series have Hybrid-X bracing, which is scalloped but an entirely different pattern, and 15 Series and below have A-Frame bracing, which is simpler and not scalloped. Thanks to oldtimey828 for this latest info.
14-fret 000.
a. Standard Series are 5/16" non scalloped for the 000-18 and 000-28 and scalloped for the 000-42. The 000-28H is no longer listed but was scalloped.
b. Vintage Series: 5/16" scalloped. The 000-28EC is not forward shifted. I believe that the 000-18WG was forward shifted, but it is no longer listed.
c. Limited Editions: Varies by model.
d. Special Editions: Varies by model.
e. Exceptions: The 000-18GE and 000-18A bracing pattern is 1/4" and forward placed. The 000-18 Kenny Sultan is 1/4" but not forward placed.
Pickguard:
OM. All OMs have the small teardrop pickguard.
000. All currently produced 12 and 14-fret 000s that have a pickguard have the large size (except the Martin Carthy 000-18, which has the teardrop).
Body Size (inches):
OM and 14-fret 000.
Body Length: 19 3/8
Upper Bout: 11 1/4
Lower Bout: 15
Upper Depth: 3 11/32
Lower Depth: 4 1/8
12-fret 000.
Body Length: 20 7/16
Upper Bout: 10 3/4
Lower Bout: 15
Upper Depth: 3 1/4
Lower Depth: 4 1/16
Headstock:
12-fret 000: Most are slotted headstock, but a few (Jimmy Buffett) are solid headstock
14-fret 000: All are solid headstock
OM: All are solid headstock
As far as tone etc. goes, this subject is of course very subjective. This is a bit of an overgeneralizaiton, but many folks think that the OM has more volume and projection due to the longer scale length, and the 000 has a "Blusier" sound and is easier to play.
Mac Carter
23-03-2009, 10:38
ขอบคุณน้า pood ครับ ถ้าเป็นอย่างนี้ OOO คอน่าจะเล่นง่ายกว่า OM น่ะครับเวลาดันสาย 23-03-2009, 13:37
23-03-2009, 14:11
ขอบคุณครับน้า yodchula ได้ความรู้จริงๆ ครับ26-03-2009, 09:56
Feeling ตอนดันสาย มันจะเหมือน Fender กะ Gibson ครับ คือพอรู้สึกได้ว่า ตึงกว่ากัน แต่ไม่มาก
ผมมี OOO แต่ก็ยังอยากได้ OM ครับ แต่พอดีมีคนแถวนี้ ซื้อตัดหน้าไปก่อน เลยไม่ได้เป็นหนี้ครับ (แค้นนนน)
ใจจริง อยากให้เค้าทำ Vintage Series ที่คอแคบกว่านี้ซักนิด เพราะเวลาเล่น Tumb chord มันกว้างไป เรามือเล็ก ฝรั่งมือใหญ่ครับ
(มันคงทำให้ ถ้าสั่ง Custom Shop แต่อยู่ที่เรา ว่าจะมีปัญญาสั่งรึเปล่า)
ผมมี OOO แต่ก็ยังอยากได้ OM ครับ แต่พอดีมีคนแถวนี้ ซื้อตัดหน้าไปก่อน เลยไม่ได้เป็นหนี้ครับ (แค้นนนน)
ใจจริง อยากให้เค้าทำ Vintage Series ที่คอแคบกว่านี้ซักนิด เพราะเวลาเล่น Tumb chord มันกว้างไป เรามือเล็ก ฝรั่งมือใหญ่ครับ
(มันคงทำให้ ถ้าสั่ง Custom Shop แต่อยู่ที่เรา ว่าจะมีปัญญาสั่งรึเปล่า)